老外关于sp4 8手感的评价（fatar tp100）

妃睡鸟

想给yamaha s910配个主键盘 要有钢琴音色与手感
看了几天 前辈推荐sp4 8 国内资料太少 到国外论坛翻了翻 新琴 国外也不多 转一个关于手感的 要是大家觉得有帮助 我在多翻译几篇

原文 I haven't played the E3HP, but now that I think of it, I believe it uses a Fatar TP100 action, which I think is also the action in the Kurzweil SP4-8, Numa Nano, and Numa Piano. The only one of those I've played is the Numa Nano, and I'd put it at about the same heaviness feel as a Casio PX3, a bit heavier feeling IMO than a Yamaha P95 or MOX8 or Korg SP170 (and, by reputation, a Roland FP-4F), definitely heavier than the FP-7F (one of the lightest actions, which I happen to prefer). But it's probably a bit lighter feeling than the RH3, and definitely lighter than the Yamaha CP33 or P155.

ipad打字不方便 我用双拼 意译

翻译 sp4 8用的是fatar tp100 键盘 这键盘用在在numa nano和numa piano上 他玩过numa nano 手感比casio px3重一点点 比yamaha p95 mox8 korg sp170也要重 比roland的fp4 fp7 重 但比rh3键盘要轻 比不上yamaha cp33或p155

妃睡鸟

再贴几个 ipad打字太痛苦 明天上imac再翻译
I have been considering FATAR Numa Nano/ Nero / Piano in the past. But because of a complete lack of pro- or user reviews, the absence of any demo units in the stores and the total silence you will encounter when you try to obtain any information from Fatar / Studiologic through email or website, I gave up. Under other circumstances I would give it a try, but for now FATAR/StudioLogic is "hands-off". Too big a risk that you end up with a big disappointment. And who do you turn to then...?

According to the very few remarks that are out there the TP100 is quite OK, but really NOT comparable to a realistic piano keybed (like RM3 ?). And the piano sounds in the Numa Piano are so..so; more the sound of yesterdays short and looped piano samples then modern implementations. I don't expect it to be better than let's say the Casio PX3-BK, but that's only from the very limited data I could gather. If you are in any position to try a Numa board anywhere in a store, that would be great, but I assume you posted this thread because they are nowhere to be found ;-)

Now, look at the action (see my thread "actions compared").
Read the description at the Fatar website for the TP 100, but be aware you must be able to read the unwritten stuff between the lines ;-)

Ok they write it is a great keyboard and closer to a piano than all others in this class. That means nothing. They have to write this because they all write this, so forget it.

However you see it has short keys and -according to the description- a very stable chassis. It can reduce the size and weight and cost of the total design.

So the primary development goal of Fatar was not to make a piano action with high authencity, it was to make a keyboard that is pianotypic and very transportable and very reliable and stable.

I dont know if it fullfills these goals, but if it does it can be a great tool for gigging, and as a controller but not a great tool to play classical style.

Peter

onw

sp4 8   为舞台演出和MIDI控制 优化   短键底盘机构有利空间/减重  并非演奏古典的利器？
如此价位 无以伦比？
Casio PX3-BK 难道很贵很好吗  

lucheng123

个人认为Roland FP-7的PHA II型键盘是上述品牌中最重的；Roland FP-4与7用的并不是同一型号的键盘，稍轻。
YAMAHA CP-33和P-155用的同样是GH键盘，个人感觉很轻。
个人弹过最重的键盘是Kawai MP9500木质键盘，非常的重。

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lucheng123 发表于 2012-4-2 04:18
个人认为Roland FP-7的PHA II型键盘是上述品牌中最重的；Roland FP-4与7用的并不是同一型号的键盘，稍轻。
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头像那个穿绿衣服的是陆兄？？这也变化太大了吧

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onw 发表于 2012-3-26 11:46
sp4 8   为舞台演出和MIDI控制 优化   短键底盘机构有利空间/减重  并非演奏古典的利器？
如此价位 无以伦 ...

px3bk售价超过4000的

heikoyh

我用到现在手感最好的还是GH3.

我觉得GH3 = Fatar 40Ｗood（FATAR旗舰）

PHA3 从做工上，和上面的不相上下，甚至更好，磨砂哑光而且有点珍珠的手感。但是手感上要差于GH3。

面包

heikoyh 发表于 2013-5-4 04:29
我用到现在手感最好的还是GH3.

我觉得GH3 = Fatar 40Ｗood（FATAR旗舰）

你现在用什么琴？

ChinaMoBro

厂家的定位，经过一段时间，可能会在用户群中发生一个戏剧性的逆转。换言之，是不是“旗舰”，并不总是厂家说了算。中低定位的东西，一不留神就出现了神器。

heikoyh

面包 发表于 2013-5-4 10:52
你现在用什么琴？

面包哥哥= =

我现在没有琴用。。用juno的合成器。弹唱还行，弹钢琴不行。。

这几天我正好想买个好点的Midi键盘。目前看中fatar也就是Studiologic的Numa Nano. 不带音源的纯键盘，人民币5000左右，是意大利原装的。我觉得不贵可以考虑。你说呢？

用的键盘是TP100LP。Kurzweil的SP4滑8用的也是TP100LP。但是问题是我没有弹过SP4滑8，不好做判断。

其实我很想买Fatar的旗舰。但是那50斤的重量实在让我望而生畏.TP100LP不是木质键盘，纯塑料的。但是却是全配重的。我觉得应该可以让我用一段时间。

关键是重量很轻= =。面包哥哥用过SP4滑8的话可以给我说说看手感= =

heikoyh

ChinaMoBro 发表于 2013-5-4 15:55
厂家的定位，经过一段时间，可能会在用户群中发生一个戏剧性的逆转。换言之，是不是“旗舰”，并不总是厂家 ...

你说的也没错。但是Fatar是意大利一家专门做键盘的厂，做了几十年了。当年为Yamaha，Roland，Kurzweil，Nord全部做过键盘。现在的Nord Elec,Kurzweil Sp，PC也依然在用他家的键盘。

TP40 Wood的确是旗舰的。你摸过就知道，全木头，象牙质感，逐层配重，光是那个键盘就要50-60斤，而且意大利原装！

再好的你也买不到了 = =