我想学键盘，用半配重键盘合适吗？

cybergate

来到这个论坛之后，对音乐、尤其是键盘乐器产生了浓厚兴趣。现在想在寝室里购买一个MIDI键盘来作键盘入门。

由于资金有限（靠奖学金支付，３０００元或以上基本无法承受。。。。），加上寝室空间非常狭小，DGX305、PX100等等精品只能暂时不考虑了。无意中物色到M-Audio出品的Keystation 61es半配重MIDI键盘，在一些音频论坛上好像还蛮受欢迎的，手感不错，力度感应好，价格也不贵（19xx）。所以决定购买（音源部分用GIGAStudio）。现在我有几个疑问：

１、我没有基础．现在要从基本功练起，６１键可以胜任５９９、８４９吗？

２、习惯了半配重的手感之后，是不是电子琴（弹簧）、电钢琴（全配重）都无法上手？

秋天

midi键盘？老兄你没钱还买midi键盘？是不是你弄错了？midi键盘到是有非常便宜的，但是音序器和电脑不是钱吗？音源要是用硬的也是钱啊？用软的声卡也得差不多啊？要不耳朵会收折磨的。

偶还是认为如果真那么喜欢借点钱买个px300最实惠，要不就继续攒钱，别不会跑的时候就买双钉子鞋走着玩。


1--基本功必须采用全配重键盘，61键要是可以胜任599 849的话就没人做88腱子的钢琴了。

2--上手可以，要想上好手就会有点问题

cybergate

谢谢你回答我的问题。其实我最担心的是学了这种“不伦不类”的半配重键盘之后，离开它就变白痴了，钢琴、电子琴都无法弹奏，到人家家里想玩玩都不行。

因为电脑我已经有了，768M内存，SBLive的声卡（支持ASIO，虽然在现在看来不怎么好，但是做到2.66ms的延迟不是问题），跑GIGA、VSTi等软音源都比较流畅。所以我才考虑购买MIDI键盘。把音源的价格省下来。

PX300好像涨价了，以前烧鸡网站上3500明码标价，现在没4100估计拿不到。这还不是最主要的原因，寝室实在是太小，根本没地方放。而我在学校还得待上4年。另外我学键盘不一定是要学钢琴，因为我对Bach、Chopin的东西根本不感冒。有一定的基础肯定要转向流行音乐和NewAge音乐。而且像我这种年龄, 要练出蛮深的功夫基本上不可能。学键盘完全是出于对现代音乐的兴趣，目标也就是流行键盘即兴弹奏还有MIDI制作。

至于我决定买MIDI键盘，完全是出于M-AUDIO公司的KeyStation 61es。这个半配重键盘在国外论坛上评价相当高，很多人都说是他们用过的手感、力度区分最好的MIDI键盘。更重要的是，由于knobs非常少（这被他们说成是缺点，对于我刚好成了优点，占地小，桌子上就能摆）价格只要1900元。说的这里，我的同学有一款Creative的MIDI键盘，1200大洋，好像还有“触后”，手感玩具一般，用了半年，力度感应全坏了。。。。。

cybergate

外国佬的评价，呵呵

Hi,

I want to buy a 61-note midi keyboard, mainly for playing VSTi's and I was wondering which is the best one I can get at an affordable price?! Here are the ones I am considering:

- Keystation 61es (is this the best one regarding quality of keys, doesn't it have limited knobs?)
- Radium 61 (lots of knobs, but how good is quality of keys?)
- Evolution MK-461C (what about this one?)
- Studiologic Fatar SL-161 (Fatar has good reputation, but how good is it with VSTi's)
- Edirol PCR-80
- any I forgot?

So which one do you recommend and which one(s) should I avoid and why?! I hear alot of good things about the Keystation 61es, but it doesn't seem to have many knobs like the Radium 61 for instance? Fatar and Edirol are perhaps great quality, but they take more space and I don't know if they are aimed so much towards VSTi's like the Keystation and Evolution controllers?! Perhaps the bundled software also makes a difference for setting up the keyboard for use with VSTi's?

Anybody has any experience with one or more of the above so you perhaps compare? Which do you recommend? Thanks to anybody who can give good advise!
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moneil
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:14 am reply with quote

I have the Keystation 61es. I highly recommend it, though unfortunately I'm biased because I don't have any of the other ones you listed. The quality of the keys is excellent (nice mix between a piano-like feel and springy feel for synths) I love the velocity-sensitive keys since it aids me greatly in music making and it is fairly portable at 11 lbs.
However, if you're into heavy synth stuff maybe you might need the extra knobs that the Radium 61 offers, especially if you're playing live. It's also very light at 7 lbs and I've seen some pretty good deals at various resellers. But does it have the velocity sensitive keys? I'm too lazy to look it up.  

I hope that helps a little bit. I'm sorry that I wasn't too specific, but I'd be glad to answer any additional questions.
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plazasuperjet
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:05 pm reply with quote

I would recommend the Edirol PCR keyboards. They seem to be the highest quality, most playable keyboards with the most stable drivers. Plus, you can easily create, save, and share control setups via the PCR Editor software app.
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benjamind
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:40 pm reply with quote

61es hands down, it is *the* best 61-note keyboard quality-wise, but it doesn't have all the knobs of the radium keyboard which might be useful for synths and changing midi CC values on the fly.

愤怒的馅饼

原贴由 cybergate 发表于 2005-1-2 12:19 AM:
谢谢你回答我的问题。其实我最担心的是学了这种“不伦不类”的半配重键盘之后，离开它就变白痴了，钢琴、电子琴都无法弹奏，到人家家里想玩玩都不行。

因为电脑我已经有了，768M内存，SBLive的声卡（支持ASIO， ...

如果纯买MIDI键盘的话，中音的火键倒可以考虑，样品感觉还不错。不过我实在不建议楼主买 MIIDI键盘，你的预算，买个DGX305绝对合适，76键的MIDI键盘，大小和DGX305差不多了

愤怒的馅饼

还有 无论是什么品牌的61键键盘（和成器、电子琴、MIDI键盘），它们的手感都绝对没法和钢琴媲美，楼主要是这么练习的话，反而有可能变得不伦不类，不如直接学习电子琴

cybergate

DGX305: 118×42×18
es61:      100 x 25 x 7

如果不是寝室太小，早就不用烦恼这么多了，唉~